I think one of the impending crisis we've got right now is that these kids
are getting great services to do fantastic services and they're getting a
lot of services mm-hmm the issue I see is we're getting now these providers
that only work with kids are not transitioning them and we work with
adults obviously lived 80 but when we get those folks they are not prepared
for moving from 35 hours to now - yeah and then if they don't have the
functional skills they don't have the you know then they're scared they might
be alone breed and they might have all the academic stuff but they don't have
how to write the bus they don't know job skills they don't so we're taking that
and we suddenly have a lot less hours I think that's gonna be quite big I think
the only way that's really gonna get fixed is as the activist parents who
helped vote to get their kids these services follow their child through this
transition to adulthood and vote to get more fun because that's the issue right
now there's also the issue of reinforcement when you teach a child to
say his first word really salient really powerful reinforcement with adults they
might be slower coming the grass harder to get and I reduce it he might slap his
staff less you know so it's not as it's not as like tangible but for me I like
the idea of going to work with adult day because you have no idea well I know we
were trained horse it's a table stuff yeah my my initial work as opposed to
doing the same thing every day I mean I reinforce is ready our country active
job you know as opposed to hey how are you doing I heard you had an incident
last night let me talk about that or you know this would be a programmer what was
his interest in different everyday well in the old days all the adults were
institutionalized and so we came out of that age and now they're in the
community and that's gonna be an opportunity for a
lot of behavior Al's to learn those skills and be able to transition from
working with the kids remember how powerful reinforcing would be if we got
somebody at the institution transition yeah I mean accessible I know that is
that to me that's just a very powerful innovation and I don't think a lot of
force right now is experiencing reinforcement because there he should
get a talk which is a powerful RIA and they don't have an opportunity but if
they come work for us or are you we present that opportunity on some yeah
they learn to love it yeah I mean that because it's reso may nine I mean you're
not you're talking about I've had applicants to say only want to work with
children result by your scratch me and then he died on us it's not it's not you
know we're not the place for you and we're somewhere but there's so many
reasonable why you should be able to hold across the lifespan what we have as
a field has something to contribute to every leg of the lines but it's not like
oh you're for I how'd I do doesn't work anymore why do we need to get you off
somewhere else how does behavior analysis stops working
when we get two years you're graduating you're done yeah it's not like that
no because adults they need vocational skills the residential giving their they
you have to learn to be you know independent and a lot of providers don't
have a service program that has a dignity and respect component to that so
that's another issue it's you're treating my son like a job and some of
these because that's that's all they're training was but if you go to we want to
teach these adults now to go into a fast-food restaurant and their behavior
is is responded to by the general community without somebody with any
special training we've taught them to respond and they've learned how to
respond and communicate their needs and wants in a way that it's universally
acceptable you don't have to be their special staff
person that understands what he's saying yeah that's dignity and respect yeah and
then you get the community to recognize that and not you know you have to just
folks have to learn to recognize that that could be rewarding to see that I
think they have to contact mm-hmm so you're like you have to take some adults
any case look yeah that with everybody have to arrest you know just because
they're 21 and no longer 20 just because of date on the calendar pass yeah
doesn't mean what we do doesn't simply suddenly doesn't work the funding
changes for sure but it's highly rewarding to to see progress when we've
got a guy with an institution lost two years later he has his own job yeah yes
absolutely that's what's great that's the power
reinforcements yeah that's available it's just and the loggerhead still have
it they just love to see you they never dream that their kid could be
that independent dinner
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