llike to welcome everybody to our work session this afternoon and I appreciate
everybody coming early so we get the work session and I think a lot of
important items on the agenda for this afternoon and I was out of town last
week and I appreciate us rescheduling this so that we could get it in and I
really wanted to be here for the discussion on the budget and calendar
and all the important items is gonna be discussed today
this time we'll looks like we've got miss Gardner on first so we'll have to go
ahead and get started chairman Francis and members of the
board miss Francis and mr. Buchanan will be presenting their budgets respectively
and then I will follow alright with the local current expense
okay okay we have a increase in our budget by five thousand four hundred and
ninety two dollars for this coming school year on the right I have a column
showing the differences between last year's budget and this year's budget the
increases and salaries are projected based on a two percent increase as a
guesstimate from Angie for what the state may do and there will be increases
on there's an increase for our membership dues and fees line by $100
now that Melanie's here we've got a few more membership dues so security was
increased as well as retirement and medical insurance and the rest of the
columns have either gone down or stayed the same I don't have any questions for
Ms. Allison about the budget
thank you to appreciate the hard work and getting it all put together I know
it takes a lot of time to do that pardon me I can't hear you
there's a fifty thousand dollar grant that's additional is that an additional
grant that is fifty thousand those USDA grants are are is the reimbursement we
received from the federal government and we're anticipating that going up by
fifty thousand dollars based on the increase in reimbursement rates and the
increase in with their CEP schools our numbers of free and reduced interest
rates if my interest rates reimbursement has increased this year
actually not really a grant it's the reimbursement yes that's why they're
labeled from the government I'd say so Miss Frances are you are the sale of
ones full paid so are you looking for that to go down by $18,000 I mean are we
expected nobody to buy lunch no there's a lot of changes in categories with the
change of North Canton and Clyde and central Haywood going to CEP schools
those kids that were normally in the for in the paid category have moved to the
free the free category so there's been a change there okay
just a reminder for mr. Burnett if you're a CEP school although and Allison
can can address this much better than I can but since you're new a CEP school
means every child can eat breakfast and lunch free they don't have to fill out
those friend reduced lunch and we've got three schools that participate in that
right now North Canton Clyde and central Haywood High School qualify for that
program
any other questions or comments on the child nutrition now we're gonna have to
go up again this year we will I don't have my formula yet from the state to
determine if that'll be five or ten cents but it will have to go up now I'm
sure that's in here yes sir all right guess next is capital outlay Joe
you should have a packet with a spreadsheet on it listed proposed
expenditures for our capital budget of 1819 in column two I've got the projects
listed whether it's HVAC GM renovation access control those top three are a
little different than what our regular capital budget is but I wanted to
include them because they are in capital improvements the first one the HVAC
central heating and air for Bethel middle school gym we have approval for
that project from the school board and from the county commissioners were
waiting on DPI approval of that project to use lottery funds the second
one the gym renovation central Haywood high we have approval from the
commissioners on that and we're getting ready to put it out to bid probably
receive bids in March on that one using local fund balance and the third one
there the access control this is the follow-up to the project we've done at
North Canton a little over a year ago to put access control on exterior doors
this one we're going to implement it at central Haywood high in the IT
department with a cost of approximately 55,000
and use ADM funds for that and then the following is the list of items that I'd
like to have projects done in the next school year and I've got those listed
I'll let you look over those if you've got any questions and just to clarify
the buildings and grounds committee members are probably aware of this but
for everyone else where we have local fund balance designated that is not our
local fund balance the county has sales tax revenues that have come in over the
sales tax revenues have increased over the last couple of years and our debt
service has decreased so they've got a few hundred thousand dollars sitting up
there and so when we're talking about some balance we're actually talking
about it is still designated for public schools but it is at the county level
and just wanted to clarify that and again another buildings and grounds
committee members are aware of that debt services are twenty eight million dollar
bond it's sorted by 2027 one thing you've mentioned Joe you said 75 I mean
55 ATM balance on the central haywood we're showing 75 on here the balance and
75 the projects is it going to be about 55
any other questions on the capital outlay budget proposed budget an
excavator we buy an excavator I'm looking to replace the one that we have
it is over twenty year old talking about like a track hoe yes yeah is it just a
small one or you medium size how about a 12,000 pound machine any other
questions
all right Miss Angie will go with the current expense budget you have two
versions of the budget in your package and each version has two sections so
sure if I'm presenting one budget - but your could be four budgets depending on
how you want to look at it but we will cover the things the first section in
each budget is what our current budget is and just what we anticipate mandated
salary and benefit increases to be for this year and then the second section of
each of the budgets one is the HB 13 version and one is HB 90 version and
we'll and we'll talk about those when we get down into that section so I think on
version 1 section 2 begins on page 11 and on version 2 section 2 begins on
page 12 so we'll begin with the first 10 or 11 12 pages we used for budget
assumptions this year we use 3 percent salary increase our retirement rate and
hospitalization rate we started out with 18% and 6100 for insurance we got
confirmation last week from dpi that that is there about 99 percent sure that
is going to be eighteen point four four percent matching retirement and 6104 for
insurance so I went back and recalculated on both of those in the
little green box I noticed I did not change the hospitalization from 6100 to
6104 but I did use 6104 the retirement rate is an increase of one point three
one percent over this year we are currently paying seventeen point one
three percent matching and as you'll recall we pay that for every dollar paid
to our employees that receive benefits and to receive benefits you have to work
six hours or more same thing for hospitalization rate the annual cost for
our employees receiving benefits at six hours or more is 6104 that's up 235
dollars from this year the current rate this year's 5,869
on both of your budgets in the far left-hand corner you'll see the lines
are numbered in blue on line 392 you'll see that we are increasing just from
projected salary and benefit increases we are anticipating an increase of four
hundred twenty three thousand eight hundred seven dollars and that breaks
down to one hundred thirty one thousand five hundred forty-one dollars
represents the projected three percent salary increase on a hundred one hundred
forty six locally budgeted positions the increase in benefits which includes FICA
retirement and insurance 166 thousand four hundred ninety dollars so our
projected or using our budget assumptions we were anticipating an
increase of 298,000 on salary and benefits which is similar to last year
our actual 1718 salary benefits were around one hundred ninety five thousand
dollars when we got the actual thousand dollar when we were sitting last fall
another lines one eighty nine thru one ninety two those lines collectively show
an increase of 76210 dollars and this is to make way for if you'll recall when we
closed central elementary school that gave us the principal months of
employment on the state side for two years so we currently have two hundred
and sixty-five months of employment that we get from this state out of that we
pay one hundred and eighty months for principals that's twelve months for our
fifteen principals leaving us with 85 months to pay for assistant
principals we have twelve assistant principals we use state oh oh five months
of employment we have one budgeted locally and we pay the
meaning one's out of state 69 so next year we will only have 73 months to pay
those additional APs and so this is just giving us a little bit you know if we
have to wind up paying all 12 months out of the local budget it's in the budget
we don't have our state planning allotments for next year yet there may
be a possibility that we could pick up two or three or four months out of our
state 69 but you know right at this point we're planning on the possibility
of absorbing those twelve months of employment any questions on that that
was 772 76 76000
okay the next line that you'll see that we've increased making up that 423,000
is line 265 and that's our transfer to charter schools we're anticipating a
transfer to charter increasing by forty nine thousand five sixty five and the
way we arrived at that number is we currently have about four hundred twenty
five brick-and-mortar charter students our local charter will be rolling off
their eighth grade there's about thirty to thirty three students there I'm
making an assumption that they could pick up they a they could max out their
kindergarten allotment which would be about give us about fifteen more
students so that Inc that forty nine thousand increase allows for fifteen at
our County appropriation of 2107 plus an increase of forty two dollars or about
forty one forty two dollars of the other for two hundred twenty five students
were paying now we currently pay out two thousand one hundred sixteen dollars and
that is made up of our county appropriation plus about fifty dollars
per child for fines and forfeitures if you'll recall they we have to make sure
they get their proportionate share so next year we're anticipating with fines
and forfeitures and county appropriation that will pay two thousand one 57 per
student any questions on that
is there has nothing to the budget there superintendent they hired just recently and
plan on going on that to high school I think that was the plan I think probably we
will see that based on what it's been reported that comes to fruition we may
that may affect that number worse yes sir I'll get on a negative way you can
see we're kind of settling down last year we appropriated an additional one
hundred one hundred nine thousand for transfer charters now it's 49 so you
know we're kind of starting to lineal in to what those wrote those numbers look
like very good where there are other changes in the first section that have a
zero net effect the first one is two additional painter positions in the
maintenance department with projecting those each of those positions to be paid
twenty-five thousand and the benefits lines 108 through one eleven and note
these are broken out from the 22 maintenance positions already budgeted
so you can see them separately but lines 108 through one 11 total 75 thousand 253
and then there are several lines that we are decreasing to offset that cost they
are and I'll go slowly if you want to write this down or look at them lines 84
85
ninety-two line 125 and it was $2,500 of that line that line is being decreased
by 5,000 then we're going to use 2500 to offset the cost of two painters line 127
line 131 line 137 and line 140 those offsets totaled 75 thousand 253
additionally you'll see on line 114 HVAC controls there's a decrease there an
increase to line 115 water and sewer repair that nets to 0 line 125 Pest
Control's we're decreasing by 5,000 2,500 is being applied to the - painter
positions and the other 2,500 is going to line 126 increase in uniforms line
344 341 technology supplies and materials decreasing and increasing to
line 338 cell phone reimbursements any questions on those zero net effect items
any questions on version want your version one budget online 393 and 394
this is if HP 13 stays as it as is we're making preparations to hire possibly 32
more teachers so we've in that projection at 1.6 million dollars if
that is our budget the total budget needs for 2018-19
is 19 million 107 710 under those conditions we will be appropriating a
total of 2.2 million six hundred sixty-eight thousand eight hundred and
forty-seven dollars from fund balance where we are projecting an increase in
county appropriation of four hundred forty two thousand six eighty six the
last page you'll see a slight increase in fines and forfeitures that's based on
last year's actuals and how we're kind of pacing this year same thing for ABC
revenue but we're hoping for version two so let's look at that
it's supposed to vote on more and I don't know whether the governor's gonna
sign it or not there's some debate on whether he was going to veto yeah I
think there were some things other things in that on version 2 beginning on
page 12 you will see beginning on line 393 the principal Department requests
that we discussed I think at the January work session and at the board's request
dr. Garrett has ranked those in order of importance you'll see those going down
through there those total to three hundred and ninety four thousand to
thirty eight that budget needs wouldn't that this version would make our budget
needs at seventeen million nine hundred two thousand three eighty one all of the
revenues remain the same with the exception that obviously we would not be
appropriating the same amount of fund balance we would appropriate 1 million
four hundred sixty three thousand five hundred eighteen dollars
are there any questions
now we are not approving this tonight yes sir the the public hearing is they
have to have the public hearing right they prove it and that's scheduled for
March 12th
stay home legislature so the stuff from 1-3 392 to 405 those are the requests
but for now we're not going to decide whether to implement or take out older
tonight
it was one day
that's what I didn't hear I'm one of them and and you can see where it's
placed I like it was number nine wasn't it start of the biology I see okay
a little behind I couldn't get my Moodle yesterday huh
well that's reason we got some time I mean we got another comment coming up
and so we got some time look at it miss Angie line 103 my pocketbook ready mr.
Kirkpatrick you saw that one oh yield trades yes those are the our maintenance
department positions we have 22 budgeted and that would just be the anticipated
3% increase in pay that's why we broke those down those two painter positions
we put them below there so that didn't get kind of so it's very distinctly just
the initial pay that works better okay
we ever implemented anything on this as far as you know we've had discussion on it
before so yeah maintenance worker gets another certification in another trade
these gets you more highly experienced in a certain division or trader it's
really you know we have we have talked about that and if you'll recall and I
know y'all approve a lot of things and it's been a long time since last fall
but we do still have the salary study out there we're hoping to get a draft
version of that at the end of this week possibly early next week
that gives us a market compare market comparisons as well as other lea
comparisons oh we will I knew it's been working I just it's a
while things going through this mind since then so forget things understand
thank you
now the let's see
is the Coaching supplement let's see is that that just carries from line 300
correct I guess I'm looking at more which one do you want me to look at I'm
looking at 2 so that's just a regular that's just to allow a little
bit of retirement increase it's not the full increase on that full dollar
coaching supplement because as you're aware we have non-employee coaches that
we would not be paying correct time again I've seen one more thing just told
them trying to stick with this
I look at this every year and I guess sometimes you just catch things Pisgah
baseball field $12,000 rent it's that's the that's the
least that we post Wales okay plus we also have to pay the taxes taxes
thank the band uniform till we decide if I were going to be more we've talked
about that about that that doesn't have to be a part of this it all need to be
next year I don't I don't think he's gonna be ready to order band uniforms
this year but in next year's when we get ready to do our the audit the auditors
come down ask how much we want to set a sign for band uniforms and so between
sometime between now and the fall we'll need to the board will need to decide if
we're going to do ten thousand a year for eight years or if you want to
increase that to twelve or fifteen thousand and we might um mr. Clark it
might be a good idea once we see what this year's cost comes in at make a I
don't know if that would help us know what they're gonna cost it eight years
from now no you're right a percentage I mean from the last time right kind of
guesstimate it then I had ten percent it be
would mention there's a line 266 you'll see that is in red 800 for many many
years we've used 48 for that program safe and drug-free schools because that
was a federal grant but now the state is using a 48 to pay bonuses to fourth
through eighth grade teachers so going into 1819 we're not going to use go 48
because we don't want that to if people just kind of pick up those local numbers
your local budget if you're using the same numbers that the state uses it
should try to mirror so we're changing that but that's no change in budget it's
just a slight program change
we did we ever separate that $3,000 that we're sending to the school board did
yes sir let me find that for you line 29 and 30 129 30 sir 29 and 30 first
page we need 30 29 is your membership in NC SBA and the next line I'm down is the
back okay that's what else
any more questions on the budget I'm sure if you find something you have
a question on yes you call them is Gardner and dr. Garrett and I'm sure
they'll have an answer for you we can discuss it
ya'll want to move on to the calendar you wanna yep
well I'm sorry dr. Garrett HEC okay on March 28th 2017 if
you'll recall we had a joint meeting with Haywood Community College at their
site it was their board members and our board members and at that time we
discussed the early college and the need to do some expansion or the need to do
something with that building up there because it was so obsolete both boards
indicated that there was a need and then in October the 11th dr. Parker and
others from the Community College and mr. Francis Joe Buchanan Jeff Haney
Angie Ira Dove Kirkpatrick Julie Davis and I met and we discussed the
enrollment and the possibility of you know how that would look if we extended
to the open enrollment there was a need to expand they have asked Haywood County
Schools to place the building in our budget and at this time I met with them
on January 22nd dr. Parker myself and mr. Kirkpatrick
and at that time we were asked to submit a proposal in our budget for the new
building the estimate was three and a half million to five and a half million
February the 7th mr. Kirkpatrick actually toured the campus to kind of
see what you know what the classrooms look like and to see the size of them
there is a need for additional space there but but is that a line item that
we want to include in our budget we can't use lottery funds for it because
you know it doesn't belong to us and you know we definitely support continuing
our partnership with the Community College with the early college but is
that something that you want to added to the budget is the question that we have
been asked mr. Kirkpatrick said that you know we need to indicate in our budget
my indication would be that we fully support the Community College and we
fully supported the early college but where would we possibly get the funds to
pay for that
only at this time from what I can gather they're still not for sure what they're
gonna do up there I mean yeah three other building needs renovating or do
they build another building or do they do this I do agree with you there is a
great need early college building is that's pretty pretty tough facility to
be into but pretty tough when you have to walk through a room to get to another
room to get to you know the conditions that they're very small because you've
been in the facility I certainly would think that we would maybe in our opening
remarks or even in our the letter to for supporting the budget that we would put
somewhere in there in there that Haywood Community or Haywood County Schools
wishes to support Haywood Community College and expanding or constructing a
building for the Haywood early college but cannot place this in our budget at
this time set that along those lines because I mean they're great partners
with us we would not have as many opportunities if we did not have the
relationship I think we'd be amiss if we didn't mention that in our budget
statement well mr. Kirkpatrick said it was going to
be brought up when we had the work session mm-hmm I think it'd be wise to
put it in there not just some wording perhaps if you want to not draft that
and then I'll send it to to you perhaps to look at so that we can work out the
details would that be appropriate I think it probably needs to include
something about additional local funding because we even at three and a half
million dollars we don't we don't have that no it's gonna have to come through
some so I mean it would be make basically a request for the yeah we're
asking for three and a half to five and a half we would have anywhere else I
mean we using our fund bounce now just to float the system see I think the
Community College you know they're using their quarter cent sales tax to do the
300 building and so that depletes what they would have to and then they've got
the same condition that we have they can't do another bond for it for so many
years and say we can't do a bond until 2024 plus we couldn't do a bond on a
facility that we don't own that's right well so the money's got to come from the
county unless we have the ability to levy you tax no but I think we all agree with
support the concept I don't mind tell Kirk to get his check
book out I'll do that we'll be in our opening remark any questions about the
statement that I just made okay I agree with it needs to be in there we're gone I
mean we've met too much and we see the need and we know the need and to not
recognize that I think we would be missing an opportunity if it's a payout
over several years even yeah we don't have the money I mean it's obvious all
right miss calendar don't say that word
first page and I showed you the last time
schools shall not be held on Sunday
Thank You 11 Holliday a thousand 25 hours of instruction and in the
remaining days to be teacher workdays and then the closing date for students
is no later than Friday the Friday closest to June 11th this year it is
June 15th that is not the Friday closest to June 11th but they gave us that
waiver when we requested the waiver to start early so they gave us the Friday
following so here's where we are right now we've missed 10 days of school the
last day for students right now is on June 14th is there are there any
questions about any of that it's mighty late it is so in our weather makeup plan
what we have left are we have June 15th which would be called a NO day and it
would extend the year until June 15th we have Memorial Day which is right now an
annual leave day and then we go into spring break
what can we extend the day or have Saturday okay well said that's why I
so
going forward this is what we we've kind of come up with and see what you guys
think we'll continue with our weather plan of extending it till June 15th and
Memorial Day if we miss on a Monday Tuesday Wednesday call Saturday school
if we miss on a Thursday or Friday what we are going to ask is that you waive
that day call it an optional teacher work day so teachers still work but
waive it for students and waive up to a total of four days that's just to get us
through the weather month because we feel like we're probably
going to have some more snow and that's just to get us through and then maybe
once we review once we get through the weather the winter months we look at the
calendar again and you know we obviously want to leave spring break to the very
last thing that we have to do we set graduation dates I think students can't
go beyond the 15th would we be wise to go ahead and wave some days what we
looked at when we had a meeting I guess the last time it snowed really bad and
we were not in school we looked at several different options and thought
this was pretty good like if we can know that we had a calendar that we could
wave up to four days and that would give us a little bit of leeway but use those
first two days first which would extend to June the 15th and then if it does no
mean we used to have the ruling if it snowed Monday Tuesday Wednesday then we
could have a Saturday school from 8 into 1 now that's not the best scenario that
you can possibly have but at least you get some hours of instruction in and
then then after that start waving up to 4 days I will say this too on we there
were two half days scheduled one on March 30th and one on April the six and
we went ahead and made those full days to get those hours back in as well so we
took those before we but we're not short on hours in fact we exceed every every
year we exceed by you know 30 40 50 hours what we were concerned about was
actually missing seat time when you you know even if you wait four days at the
high school that's four 90-minute classes that I'm gonna be missing we've
only missed 13 and a half days of instruction hours sorry thirteen and a
half hours of instruction because we've made everything up or we
will make it up in June I just like that I I like that plan and we we met a
couple times and talked we don't want to give up instructional time unless it's
necessary and I think we unless it was just really bad we wouldn't want to give
up more in four or five days and I wouldn't want to waive those unless we
needed to and I was going to say turn my mic on but dr. Garrett said it we have
lots of people ask us about the hours we really don't need hours we have cleaning
people who had hours are folks who they add hours because they need them and we
don't see the general statute says 1025 hours or 185 days but we've not gone 185
days we've always come with 1025 and we always exceeded by lots of hours which
really I think when Todd and Jenny calculated it you could you could wave
up to 10 days but but would that be what's best first for students and
teachers we need to take action or do we just need to just agree that that's the
way we won't go or I think you need to agree and then put it on the agenda for
approval to take action that this because this is the weather plan right
now is this and you can see that waving days is not on the weather plans
Saturday school is on there but it just says Saturday school I become an
option when I other days are exhausted and we probably need to be more specific
about if it's a Monday Tuesday or Wednesday we'll have a Saturday school
if it's Thursday or Friday we can waive that day but I do want to say that if if
you do waive that day those four days remember that that two groups of
employees that are not going to get paid for those days
I'm going to add it to the agenda when we get to agenda adjustments okay
and just I'll be right with everybody will do it thing can we waive days
even without touching Spring Break yes that's what we're asking to do okay
we're asking Spring Break oh if we touch Spring Break they'll run us out of this
county my this is kind of the order so the first the next day would be
a no day and we'll extend it to June 15th then if we miss another day it'll
be a Memorial Day then if after that we'll start doing Saturday school when
we can when we can or waive the Thursday or Friday because you can't have
Saturday school if you miss on the Thursday or Friday and then wave up to a
total of four days and remember that's just to keep us at getting out at
June 15 that's just to keep us where we are now once we're done with the weather
we can look at the calendar again if you want to and then hopefully we don't miss
more than six more days and have to go into spring break because if at that
point we wouldn't have an option you have to let me ask you a question and
anticipation receiving the same question myself that's another way of saying
playing devil's advocate in this really the antithesis of what we've just done
on the future calendar it is exactly I mean it's the opposite argument all
right in the middle of the weather right now that's why you know on the
other calendar we said we will wave four days first before we before we start
tinkering with the schedule right
but I think with this if you go by the calendar itself I mean you would miss I
mean all we're doing is strictly going by the calendar what the recommendations
were and you're just adding this in as an extra at the end in case we get there
there's a real possibility yeah I think another difference is too is when next
year if we wave those four days upfront then we will have nine days after those
four to make up if you look at next year's calendar some of those are built
into the calendar and some of our workdays and the problem that we have
now is if we wave four that we've already missed we still don't have we
don't we only have two left and then we go into spring break or we have to wait
more than four so if we wave them now the ones we've already missed and say
that you know they're they're wave four people then if we miss another four days
if we miss five or six days we're in trouble I think the only other thing you
could do and we do not talk about this so probably shouldn't bring it up but
you know you could wave a day or two before the 15th or Memorial Day but
they're sitting there to be used and we knew going in that we might have to use
them I like the plan it may not be perfect but I like everything Saturday
school stuff well your attendance it's not good on Saturday it ranges 74 to 76
percent and you know you're getting you some contact hours in but isn't is it
the best method no and it's sort of like we talked about
before you know yeah you don't want to do Saturday school yeah just as soon as
you say we're not gonna do Saturday school we'll end up having to look at
well and at this point our choices our Saturday school or Spring Break so but
now I've gotten a lot of calls the last several weeks you know asking that we do
saturdays but it's hard to plan those Saturdays because you have dance you
have church groups you have all kinds of activities and that's why your
attendance is so much you have to miss one that week can't go six dates no I
think it's important to remember that if we do a Saturday school it's all that
same week so if you miss a Monday Tuesday Wednesday you're gonna make it
up on that same week you're not gonna make it up in June on a Saturday you're
gonna make it up of that same week what was the issue with it if you extended
the school day by thirty minutes something about people would be
working overtime after certain period of and I don't remember
yeah they would get then we get into overtime paying that would be you know
the hours are there so
trying to figure out if get another day out of doing it like that but I
think if we added Todd and I did look at this and I think we all agree that
probably add ten minutes to the beginning and 10 at the end is not
the most instructionally sound but you would have to go if you added twenty
minutes to each day you would have to go 19 days to make one day okay that's
that's where I was getting out of good remember what that formula was or the
timeline thank you and just to be redundant plus we don't
need that time I mean we're way past the thousand 25 we're just you know we're
trying to get days in hours you know without waving more than 4 and if
there's a blizzard then we'll just have to talk and pray and come up with
whatever we can come up with it almost makes you wonder move five to one
and leave everything the way they are see what I'm saying
Wave the next for that leaves you getting out of June 14 and you still
have Memorial Day what did you just did you say move five to one well because I
was actually thinking about moving five to at least move five to three I mean I
think you're five I think we need to start thinking about I know the
instructionals and everything else but we need to really start thinking about
your four days waving your four days and needs to be one of your closer options
besides taking more days away but that's my personal opinion I mean yeah I have a
vote so I mean well if you want to keep it like it that's fine but Saturday
school put it in priority school anyway Saturday schools is not worth a hoot a
main period you're you're not getting you're not gaining anything
except days besides that your instructional days they're not doing
nothing so I mean you're you're sort of just
doing nothing there yes I would like to see five moved up somewheres else
besides December 5 I'd agree with that move it to three before Saturday's good
with the caveat of we figured out how to take care of employees that are gonna
miss time for the next school yeah yeah we could do the same we could go ahead
and implement a little early I know it affects the budget so long but I think
y'all come up the really good plan there's no reason not to implement it if
needed which hopefully the move spring in a week or so and we're gonna be on
stead of moving five all the way up to three you can move just move three down
below five just move everything else up for if y'all wanna wave four days
tonight I'd move the next I'd let the next four be waived okay that's all though
I want to make sure okay what I just said is they would like put five it
to re and just swap places with three and five okay are you gonna waive the
next four days that we miss but now listen we do y'all need to discuss and
decide if that's what you want to do or not well I think what is the money your
the money that employees just I've told you what they is
told you they they told us that would work need to know if we could waive
wicked ways fifteen but if it's not workable then we can't do it yeah I
think a they've already told you what they want their won't one through
seven I just want to point one thing out for sort of so that we're all on the
same page if we if we were to do this once we do away with the no day on the
15th if we move those waving of days up in the calendar that works as long as we
just miss one day in a week but let's say that we have snow on Monday and on
Tuesday and Wednesday we're not going to have any choice at
that point after we call a Saturday school let's say on Monday the only
thing we're going to have left to do for Tuesday and Wednesday as to waive days
even if we don't have any days to waive there's nothing else you're going to be
you're not going to have the or or take spring break because you've already
extended yourself at that point to the 15th which is the farthest point we can
go in the school year and so at that point there's nothing else left to do
wave those days would take spring break once you've taken
everything else off the table just keep that just keep that in your
mind there's no margin at that point to play with with any other kind of days
well now you keep on talking about for days now let me let me get it in my head
a hundred and twenty five hours is all we have to do how this how the law is
it's a hundred and twenty five thousand twenty five minimum that's the men we
could still reach the hours because we've got plenty of day so we can sit
here talk about spring break how you want to if it comes down to it I am
going to waive ten days before I I'm sort of like mr. Larry over here
I'm going to wave ten days and get down to the hunt twenty five hours before I touch
spring break and then we will work it out how to pay we will work it out when
we cross that bridge the other problem is is you're you're putting a lot of
stress on your curriculum to in my mind issues start knocking days out and
that's instructional time you top ten in the state right now and you're gonna
just put more and more pressure on that time that you have in the classroom I
mean it's easy to say we're gonna throw days away but it's that's instructional
time that hopefully is quality time well and again let me state that's the
anthesis antithesis of what we just done for next year correct
we argued that too I'd leave it as you present it to read
my before well the one thing you can do is leave it like it was and then when we
hit when we take away Memorial Day we can reconvene know what if we're in a
snowstorm and we're having to miss the next day we can reach me you can still
reconvene you can call anybody on this board we can call in okay it's hard to
do it once now that we're right in the middle of it that's the that's the issue
next year we won't be whats gonna hold exactly we're just trying to
get us through the next
and I think this order and again we had two long discussions about five or six
of us a payroll HR making sure we were cutting people's contract time
transportation dr. Garrett Jenny myself I think we put it in this order because
we only have two days to play with and and if we waive the four first then and
we have five or six days of snow then we may have to wave more than four but we
we don't want to for instructional purposes we have those minimum hours but
we want more than minimum instruction if we can get them so I mean that's
the rationale for why we do so here's the original recommendation again
and we know from previous surveys that Saturday school and spring back are the
least favorite which is why we took Saturday out of the option for the last
few years and we haven't needed it because we only miss five days last year
and what we only had one two-hour delay but this year we're in a different boat
with ten days Saturday does save you a day even though we don't like Saturday
is still an instructional day even if you only get 70% and for the record many
of us have been praying for no more snow yes
just for the record sincere prayer as Todd said this morning a like rain well
I know you have done I mean you've done your homework I mean just like I said I
mean it it's just a personal opinion of mine by me I know you all have done your
homework and sometimes everybody looks at things different and that's reason
we're the way we are but I mean at this point I suggest we present that calendar
as this plan right here yeah and then we'll vote on it and if we vote against
it then we'll have an alternate plan B we'll do what mr. Rogers was talking
about and we'll vote on it it'll be a decision made and we can you know review
we can review it anytime you want your bet that's kind of like Stephen said if
we get Memorial Day and the 15th in there then we made after reconvene and
okay after 48 hours and notice ya
Saturday make them goto school thank you I mean that like I said I won't I want to
say thank you for at least doing it because I know it does a lot of time
trust me I's on the calendar committee and I'm glad somebody else's on it now
next year with next year's calendar if we have this same issue so at this point
if we were in next year's calendar right now we would only have started making up
our second day we would the end of the school year would only
have moved two days so we would so be good of course that's a lot of
instructional time there's no easy answer especially when you're right in
the middle of the weather
so we'll presume I'll present this that's why I mean will vote on okay then
we're making sugestions not telling us what to do that's my suggestion that's good if
we don't like it we can vote it down and come at it again now I guess we're done
with the work session so now I guess we'll go into our building and grounds
and Finance Committee
you
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