TES TESTT TEST TEST
>> TO ENFORCE REGULATIO
NS TO MOTIO
DERNIZE OUR CASE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.
AS WELL AS TO -- PROTECTIONS
WE TOO; WE'LL BRING YOU A
PROPOSAL. AN EXPANSION IN A
NUMBER OF WAYS. SIMILARLY;
THE ASSISTED LIVING LICENSE
IS AROUND THREE TIERS. A
BASIC ASSISTING LICENSE.
CREATING ADDITIONAL
STANDARDS. VERY IMPORTANT
ALL OF THESE LIE SANS --
MORE
ACCOUNT BEAM TEE AND HE'S OF
NAVIGATION FOR CONSUMERS.
WE'LL BE -- I WE ARE NOW
READY WITH THE GOVERNORS
BUDGET SUPPORT SHARING THE
LANGUAGE. WHICH WE WILL
BEGIN TO DO TOMORROW. THE
TWO AGENCIES HAVE BEEN
WORKING CLOSELY TOGETHER ON
THIS ISSUE FOR ALMOST A YEAR
NOW. I
THINK I MADE TREMENDOUS
PROGRESS WITH S
PEAKING WITH -- THE BILL LANGUAG
E THAT YOU'LL SEE TOMORROW. WITHOUT GETTING INTO ALL OF THE DETAILS IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOT JUST DO REGULATIONS. WE LOOK FOR
THE RECORD TO WORKING WITH YOU
IN THE SESSION WITH IT.
>> TO BRING ONE VOICE AND
SOLUTIONS TO A HUGE PROBLEM
THAT WE HAVE HERE IN THE
STATE OF MINNESOTA. I JUST
WANT TO THANK YOU FOR
(INAUDIBLE) IN THAT
AREA. THANK YOU.
>> MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE;
WE ARE A GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO
COME TOGETHER AFTER AN
EXPERIENCE; USUALLY WITH A
MOTOR FATHER. MY FATHERS
BODY WAS LEFT FOR SEVEN DAYS
WITHOUT A WELL NECESSARY
CHECK. I TALKED ABOUT THIS
-- SO OFTEN. NEWS PAPERS
HAD
BEEN PILING UP. A NEIGHBOR
WENT AND SAID; YOU NEED TO
CHECK ON HIM. THAT DIDN'T
HAPPEN. HE DIDN'T COME FOR
A MEAL. BUT I'M NOT THE ONLY
ONE WHO HAS HAD AN
EXPERIENCE; A LOT OF MEMBERS
HAVE HAD LOVED ONES WHO TIED
OR LIMBS -- BECAUSE
OF UNTREATED INFECTIOUSES.
OTHERS REPORT SEXUAL ASSAULT
BY A RESIDENTS.
THE RESULT
OF PHYSICAL ABUSE; MISS HANDLING. THERE IS
VERY LITTLE OVERSIGHT. THIS WAS
ALSO VERIFIED BY THE
LEGISLATIVE AUDITOR AFTER
THE
REVIEW OF HEALTH FACILITIES
. MINNESOTAS ABILITY TO HOLD
THEM ACCOUNTABLE; THEREFO
RE HAVE FAY-- WE BELIEVE THIS
UNDER REGULATION HAS LED TO
AN EPIDEMIC OF ABUSE. THERE
WERE 4000 COMPLAINTS
REGISTERED. LAST YEAR THERE
WERE 2200500 COMPLAINTS
STILL COMING IN. BRINGING THIS TO
THE FOREFRONT; WE HAVE BEEN
TOLD THAT WHAT HAS HAPPENED
TO US IS REALLY RARE. IT IS
NOT RARE. IT IS
A GROWING EPIDEMIC. KEEP IN MIND THAT
THIS IS SIGNIFICANTLY
UNDERREPORTED. THE NATIONAL
CENTER FOR VICTIMS OF CRIMES
AS -- IS REPORTED
TO AUTHORITIES. SOME RECESS
DENT -- RESIDENTS AND
FAMILIES DON'T KNOW
THAT THEY
CAN DO THAT.
THEY WERE BEING ASKED TO
LEAVE THEIR RESIDENCE;
ASSISTED LIVING EVEN THOUGH
THERE WAS NO CHANGE IN THE
CONDITION OF THE PERSON.
ALSO THERE ARE THE -- WE
DON'T HAVE ANYBODY THERE TO
HELP THEM ADVOCATE
FOR THEMSELVES. ANOTHER CLAIM
THAT WE HEAR; ONLY
INVESTIGATES THE SERIOUS
COMPLAINTS. IT IS TRUE THAT
THEY ONLY INVESTIGATE ABOUT
FIVE PERCENT ON-SITE AND
OTHER FIVE PERCENT --
LEAVING
ABOUT 90 PERCENT THAT NEVER
GETS AN INVESTIGATION. THAT
DOES NOT MEAN THAT 90
PERCENT AREN'T CERTIFICATE --
SERIOUS
ISSUES. ONE INVESTIGATOR
TOLD A MEMBER THAT HIS WORK
IS BASED ON WHAT THEY THINK
THEY KNOW SOMETHING HAPPENED
BUT THEY DON'T HAVE THE HARD
EVIDENCE TO PROEFB IT. WE
NEED TO BE AWARE OF HOW
UNDER
FUNDED OUR AGENCIES
HAVE BEEN. IT HAS BEEN UNDER
RESOURCED IN TERMS OF
STAFF AND TECHNOLOGY. IN TERMS OF
THE NUMBER OF BEDS THEY
ARE EXPECTED TO COVER. THE
RECOMMENDED STANDARD IS
2000. IN YOUR PACKET WE LEFT THE
FINDINGS FROM OUR INITIAL
REVIEW OF STUDIES AND I
WON'T
GO THROUGH ALL OF THAT. WE
WANTED TO LOOK AT THESE
TOGETHER. TO GET A FEEL FOR
WHAT IS HAPPENING. THERE
ARE
SOME OPERATORS OUT THERE
THAT
MAINTAIN THE FACILITIES
SO POORLY. PATIENTS CAN HE
IS ESCAPE; LEAVE. ONLY TO BE
LATER FOUND IN A SNOW BANK;
FALLEN AND
HAVING A CONCUSSION. THEY'RE
UNDERSTAFFED AND THEY CAN'T
KEEP UP. THE RESOLVE IS IN
CORRECT USE OF EQUIPMENT.
POOR MEDICATION
ADMINISTRATION. ALL OF
THESE
CAN BREAK OUT IN --
SITUATIONS. THINGS THAT ARE
PROBABLY THE HARDEST TO
UNDERSTAND IS THE
CRUELTY. A
MAN FELL ON THE FLOOR; WAS
LEFT FOR FOUR HOURS TO CRAWL
-- WHILE THE STAFF IGNORED
HIM; READ MAGAZINES.
ANOTHER
CASE THAT WE PROBABLY READ
ABOUT; A MAN WAS BEATEN TO
DEATH. A COUPLE OF OTHER
STAFF PEOPLE HELD HIM DOWN
DURING THE BEATING. OTHER
STAFF IGNORED IT. AND THEN
THEY WOULD NOT GET HIM
TREATMENT AND HE DIED.
WE KNOW THAT LICENSE WILL
ESTABLISH IN TAKING US LONG
WAYS IN PREVENTING THESE
THINGS HAPPEN
ING. REDUCE THE
NUMBER OF THESE PROBLEMS.
FINALLY I WANT TO SAY THANK
YOU TO THE GOOD OPEN --
OPERATORS OUT THERE.
I THANK
YOU.
>> I APPRECIATE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY
ON
HOUSE FILE 90. I WANT TO
THANK -- FOR THE COMMITMENT
FOR CARE IN FACILITIES.
ENHANCING QUALITY OF CARE.
AND PROTECTING PEOPLE FROM
ABUSE AND NEGLECT.
ATTENTION TO THESE --
REQUIRING TRAINING FOR THOSE
SETTING AND PROTECTING
PEOPLE. -- AND THAT THESE
RECOMMENDS ARE INCLUDING THE
GOVERNORS BUDGET. AND
CONSIDER THAT RECOMMENDED --
I SUPPORT THAT
CONSIDERATIO
N. I BELIEVE IT
REFLECT THE WORK.
VERY HIGH LEVEL THE STARPDS
TO GUIDE OUR WORK. PEOPLE
ARE NOT REQUIRED TO RESIDE
IN
DEMENTIA SETTINGS.
SHOULD MEET MINIMUM DEMENTIA
TRAINING REQUIREMENTS.
THEY ARE GENERALLY REFLECTED IN
THE BILL TODAY. ELECTRONIC
MONITORING DOES NOT ENSURE
SAFE -- IT CAN BE
A USEFUL TOOL.
PEOPLE WITH DEMENTIA ARE
VULNERABLE -- BELIEVE IT IS
IMPORTANT TO CLARIFY THESE
ISSUES TO ALLOW THESE TYPES
OF DEVICES. PEOPLE LIVING
WITH DEMENTIA CHANGES IN
ROUTINE CAN BE
DISRUPT TIFB. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF ISSUES
THAT WILL HELP MINIMIZE --
RELATE TODAY RESIDENTS AND
VOLUNTARIRY DISCHARGES. THESE ARE ALL CRITICAL. I
WANT TO HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE
RECOMMENDATIONS; CREATED BY
THE LEGISLATURE TWO YEARS
AGO. THE REPORT WAS
DELIVERED LAST MONTH.
ALZHEIMER'S GROUP -- LIVING
IN -- VIOLATIONS OCCUR. THE
WORKING GROUP RECOMMENDS A
CLEARLY STANDING. CALLED
FOR
CREATION OF ASSISTED
LIVING.
WITH CLEAR STANDS.
THERE ARE
18 STANDARDS AND I HOPE THAT
I HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO
SPEAK WITH YOU
IN THE FUTURE.
INTO
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> I'M LAUREN -- CONNIE
COULDN'T BE HERE TODAY.
MY MOTHER HAS DEMENTIA. MY
MOM WAS STILL DRIVE AND
CARING FOR HERSELF. YOUR
OPTIONS ARE VERY LIMITED.
THERE ARE MANY BUILDING OUT
THERE BUT NOT MANY ROOMS.
SHE WAS HESITANT ABOUT
MOVING BUT -- I JUST WANTED HER TO
BE SAFE AND HAPPY AND HAVE
SOMEONE TO RELY ON IF I
WASN'T AROUND. DURING THE
TOUR OF THIS BUILDING; I
INSTRUCTED THEM TO TELL ME
EVERYTHING THAT I NEEDED TO
KNOW ABOUT THE MOVE. I WAS
HOPING THAT THEY WERE
TRAINED
PROPERLY TO BE RESOURCES TO
THE FAMILY. SHE PICKED HER
ROOM. IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL
PLACE. THEY HAD PROMISED
TRIPS TO THE GROCERY
STORES.
I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT QUESTION
S THAT I NEEDED TO ASK. IT
SEEMED TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE.
THIS WAS THE BEST OPTION. I
HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO TRUST
WHAT THEY WERE TELLING ME.
I
WAS WRONG AND IT BECAME
CLEAR
-- NOBODY EVER AROUND IF I
NEEDED TO HAVE THEM HELP ME
ANSWER A QUESTION. I WOULD
MAKE SURE HER PHONE WAS
CHARGE. THE HALLWAYS WERE
VERY LONG. THEY COULDN'T
TRACK BUILDINGS DOWN. THERE
IS NOTHING TELLING ANYBODY
WHERE THEY NEED TODAY GO.
THERE WASN'T ANYBODY AROUND
TO REDIRECTION AND FIND
THEIR WAY BACK. WE WENT TO A TOUR
WITH SOMEONE WHO WORKED FOR
THIS COMPANY. THEIR JOB IS
TO SELL ROOMS. DECISIONS
THAT WERE MADE FOR THESE
MOVES ARE MADE QUICKLY. AND
WE'RE RELYING ON PEOPLE TO
TELL US THE TRUTH. THIS IS
THE ULTIMATE LET DOWN. I
KNEW WHERE TO LOOK FOR SOME
OF THESE THINGS. I'M TRY TO
GO FIGURE OUT WHERE SOME OF
THESE -- CLAIMS ARE FROM THE
PEOPLE THAT ARE JUST
COMPLAINERS TO THE PEOPLE
WHO
REALLY HAVE PROBLEMS. ALL
OF THAT INFORMATION IS
DIFFICULT
TO FIND. I LOST TIME WITH
MY
FAMILY. I FELT GUILTY THAT
I HAD DONE THIS TO MY MOM
BECAUSE SHE WAS RELATIVELY
FINE. I WAS
UNAWARE OF WHAT -- MAYBE IT WOULD HAVE ENDED
DIFFICULT. BUT THE TOLL
THAT IT TOOK ON HER I'M NOT GOING
TO GET THAT TIME BACK. THE
MONTHS THAT MY MOM --
I JUST WE'RE NOT -- WE
JUST WANT TO KNOW THAT THERE IS
QUALIFIED STAFF. I DON'T
WANT TO BE TOLD WHAT I WANT
TO HEAR. I GET THAT IT IS A
BUSINESS. I'M NOT SURE THAT
THESE COMPANIES ARE GOING TO
DO THAT UNLESS
SOMEONE MAKES THEM. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU FOR LISTENING
TO MY TESTIMONY TODAY. OUR
FAMILY RECEIVED A LETTER
FROM
THE DIRECTOR. THIS INCREASES
THE POSSIBLE -- THAT IS WHY
IT IS IMPORTANT FOR
VULNERABLE PERSONS TO HAVE
STRONG FAMILY ADVOCATES. IF
YOUR LOVED ONE IS PAYING UP
TO 7 THOUSAND DOLLARS A
MONTH. I BELIEVE WE ALL
WOULD EXPECT PROPER CARE.
WE TRIED HARD FOR 18 MONTHS TO
WORK TO ADDRESS OUR
CONCERNS. I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW HOW
WE CAME TO INSTALL A
CAMERA. IN ADDITION TO MY MOMS
CLAIMS
WE HAD OUR OWN OBSERVATIONS.
UNCHANGED. SAFETY
SENSE ORRERS UNPLUGGED. THE
DIRECTOR -- IT CAME OBVIOUS
USE TO US THAT HER CARE WAS
NOT BEING (INAUDIBLE) AS WE
HAD NOT HAD A PRIVATE
CAREGIVER FOR
OVER SIX WEEKS.
WE WOULD STATE MY
ARMS HURT; THEY'RE MEAN TO ME. THAT
SHE WAS HUNGRY; WASN'T FED. OR
THAT THERE IS A MAN WHO
SLEEPS AT THE END OF MY
BED.
WE WERE REPEATEDLY TOLD THAT
THE CARE WAS CHECKED OFF
ON HER CHART SO
IT WAS DONE. OUR VULNERABLE MOM WAS NOT
BEING PROPERLY CARED FOR.
WHY NOT PUT A CAMERA IN OUR
OWN ROOM. I WOULD LIKE TO
SHARE WITH YOU THE HORROR
THAT WE FOUND. NO SHAW --
LOCK THE DOOR STAY AND WATCH
TV AND/OR SLEEP AND NOT
PROVIDE CARE FOR MY MOTHER.
THAT WAS THE MAN SLEEPING AT
THE END OF MY MOTHERS BED.
HANDS NOT WASHED ONCE IN
THREE DAYS. EMOTIONAL AND
PHYSICAL ABUSE. SNAPPING
HER
BRA. REPAIDLY HIT MY MOMS
LEGS. YELLED AT AND CALLING
HER A GROWN AS ADULT. WE
WOULD ONCE THE CAMERA WAS
NOTE ISED ON DAY FOUR THEY
BEGAN TO TAKE HER OUT OF THE
ROOM. LITTLE DID WE
KNOW SHE WAS SHOVED IN A CORNER BY
HERSELF. ANOTHER RESIDENTS
DAUGHTER ALERTED US TO THIS.
WE WERE CALLED -- UNLESS WE
COMMUNICATE EVERYTHING
THAT HER CARE WILL CONTINUE TO BE
BELOW OUR STANDARDS. I
WOULD
LIKE TO ADDRESS -- REQUIRING
A RESIDENT WITH DEMENTIA TO
BECOME -- HERE IS A PERSON
WITH A CONFUSED MIND AND NOW
WE'RE GOING TO PUT A THOUGHT
IN THEIR HEAD THAT THEY MAY
NOT BE SAFE. IT
WOULD NOT SURPRISE ME -- AS YOU LOOK
INTO THESE CONCERNS -- UNTIL
MY SISTER BROKE UP A STAFF
(INAUDIBLE) PLEASE
UNDERSTAND THAT ONCE THE VULNERABLE
ADULT ENTERS ASSISTED LIVING
IT IS BECAUSE THEY NEED
DAILY CARE. IT IS NOT UNCOMMON TO
HAVE A TEMPORARY AGENCY
PROVIDING THE -- WE KNOW OUR
MOTHER WOULD WANT
SAFETY OVE
R PRIVACY. HOURS EACH TIME TO
DISREGARDS OUR MOTHER AS SHE
LAID IN HER OWN SOIL. WE
NOTIFIED
THE ENTIRE ORGANIZATION AFTER EACH OF
THESE THREE INCIDENTS.
WE WISH THAT WE COULD HAVE
JUST BEEN -- FOCUSSING
ON CARE; DIGNITY. OUR TWO
GUIDING PRINCIPALS WERE THAT
SHE WAS KEPT SAVE AND
LOVED. THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME
SPEAK.
>> THANK YOU. YOU DID WHAT
YOU THOUGHT THAT YOU NEED
TODAY DO.
THE NEXT TESTIFIERS.
>> MY MOTHER WAS -- WITH
ALZHEIMER'S AT THE
AGE OF 58.
MOM WAS A CAREGIVER THROUGH
AND THROUGH TO MANY.
YOU MAKE THE DIFFICULT
DECISION TO MOVE YOUR MOTHER
TO AN ASSISTED LIVING.
YOUR BELIEF IS THAT THEY
HAVE PROFESSIONAL CAREGIVERS. THIS IS WHAT THE PROSURE
STATES. THIS IS WHAT
THE WEBSITE SHOWS.
UPON DISCHARGE THE FACILITY
SAID THAT THEY WOULD NOT
READMIT MOM.
WE HAD (INAUDIBLE) AND NO
PLAN TO TRANSITION HER. WE
FOUND
ANOTHER ASSISTED LIVING. THEY REFERRED TO
HER AS C3; HER ROOM NUMBER.
MOM EVENTUALLY BECAME
OVER MEDIC
ATED. THIS WAS ONE OF THE MANY TIMES THAT
WE EXPERIENCED MEDICATIONER ORS
. MOMS CONDITION IMPROVED AND
SHE REBOUNDED. SHE BECAME TO EAT ON HER OWN. SHE WAS
ALERT AND RESPONSIVE. T
HREE MONTHS LATER -- DAILY
CHALLENGES AND
LACK OF LEADERSHIP. WE -- NEVER A
DAY WENT BY WHEN WE WEREN'T
THERE TO CARE FOR MOM.
NEVER ONCE A THANK YOU FROM AD
ADMINISTRATOR. THE SAME
FACILITY THAT MOM WORKED FOR
AS A YOUNG WOMAN.
WE WERE FORCE TODAY TAKE MOM
TO OUR MOM TO ASSURE
DIGNITY.
SHE WAS NEGLECTED OVER
AND OVER AGAIN.
THIS IS A -- OF OUR STORY.
MANY HOURS WERE LOSS. AS
WELL AS UNAPPRECIATED GOOD
CAREGIVERS PUT IN
POSITIONS THAT THEY WERE NOT TRAINED
OR QUALIFIED FOR.
OUR MOTHERS SUFFERING HAS
ENDED. HOWEVER FAMILIES
EXPERIENCE THE
SAME SUFFERING. OUR STORY COULD
HAPPEN TO ANYONE IN
THIS ROOM TODAY. YOUR LIFE SAVINGS
SHOULDN'T -- FOR NEGLECT AND
ABUSE. A LIFE OF
(INAUDIBLE)
THAT ASSURES YOUR SAFETY.
I'VE TESTIFIED MANY TIMES
LAST YEAR. STORY THAT'S
NEVER GET EASY
TO SPEAK ABOUT. THE PAIN ENDURED BY
MY MOTHER AND -- BY
MOST. IT
CONTINUES TO BE THE REASON
THAT I SHARE HER STORY WITH
HOPE THAT IT CAN MAKE A
DIFFERENCE
. PROTECT OUR MOST
VULNERABLE FROM
BEING KICKED OUT OF THERE HOMES. THANK
YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
>> THANK YOU FOR
SHARING YOUR STORY.
>> I'M THE ASSOCIATED
DIRECTOR OF ARP. SOME
OF OUR MEMBERS ARE IN THE ROOM AS
YOU CAN SEE. ELDER ABUSE IS
OUR TOP PRIORITY THIS YEAR.
WE ALSO WANT TO THANK THE
INDUSTRY AND COULD
MISSION NE'ERS AND ALL STAKEHOLDERS.
MOST OF ALL TODAY WE WANT TO
THANK THE FAMILIES FOR
SHARING THEIR HEART FELT
STORIES. SORRY I'M GETTING
EMOTIONAL AFTER TALKING TO
THEM.
IF YOU HEARD FEW PROTECTIONS
EXIST FOR THESE INDIVIDUALS.
HOUSE FILE 90 WILL PROVIDE
REFORM THAT ADDRESS NOT ONLY
ASSISTED LIVING LICENSES BUT
ALSO THE RIGHTS OF JOLTEDER
AND VULNERABLE ADULTS. WE
ARE VERY -- THAT THERE IS A
CONSENSUS AROUND THE
FRAMEWORK FOR LICENSURE.
WE DO NOT THINK IT IS --
ALONE.
IT IS CRITICAL TO STRAEPTH
EN THE RIGHTS OF THESE ADULTS.
YOU HEARD THE STORIES TODAY;
I THOUGHT THAT I COULD
SUMMARIZE AGAIN HOW THE
BILL WILL IMPACT AND IMPROVE
THEIR
LIVES. WE BELIEVE THE BILL
WILL ADDRESS A
SIGNIFICANT IMBALANCE OF POWER AND
VULNERABILITIES. GIVING
VULNERABLE ADULTS THE RIGHT
TO USE THE COURTS. IF YOU
HEARD FROM SOME OF THE
TESTIFIERS THE BILL
WILL GIVE THEM THE RIGHT TO PLACE A
CAMERA TO MONITOR WITHOUT
FEAR OF REAL YEGGS BY
THE FACILITY. THE BILL
PROHIBITS
AGGRESSIVE
MARKETING PRACTICES THAT WE SEE AT
THE TIME OF MOVE IN. MOREOVER
THE BILL WILL PROVIDE CLEAR
DEFINITION STANDARDS AND
STAFF TRAINING WILL BE
REQUIRED. ALSO
UNDER THE NEW
FRAMEWORK; IT WOULD HAVE
BEEN
LICENSED AND UNDER THE
PURVIEW OF THE HEALTH
DEPARTMENT. FINALLY LAST
BUT
NOT LEAST THE A DRAMATIC
DISCHARGES. THE BILL
PROVIDES MUCH NEEDED
PROTECTIONS AGAINST -- --
PROTECT AND PREVENT
TRAUMATIC
DISCHARGES. IT ALLOWS FOR
EMERGENCY DISCHARGES AND
ESTABLISHES CLEAR
GUIDELINES FOR TERMINATION AND EX PE --
RATES. DISCHARGE PLAN --
TODAY WE DO OFFER THESE
TERMINATION RATES AND ADULTS
IN GROUP HOMES. GIVEN THE
VULNERABLE TEE YOU NEED THEM
FOR THIS POPULATION AS WELL.
ARE WE COMMIT TODAY WORKING
TOGETHER WITH ALL THE OF THE
STAKEHOLDERS TO DEVELOP AND
STRENGTHEN THEIR RIGHTS.
>> THANKS FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO TESTIFY.
I'M HERE TODAY ON BE HALF OF
THE LONG-TERM CARE -- THE
STORIES OF HARM AND
ABUSE ARE
TERRIBLE. I WANT TO THANK
COMMISSIONER -- TO DISCUSS
THE IMPORTANT
ISSUES RAISED TODAY. THE LONG-TERM CARE
-- AND WE FOUND AS WE LONG
EXPECTED THAT WE HAVE
SIGNIFICANT COMMON GROUNDS
WITH CONSUMERS AND REGULATOR
AS LIKE. THE WORK GROUP --
THAT SHOULD GUIDE THIS
IMPORTANT WORK. NUMBER ONE; IT IS IMPORTANT TO MAINTAIN
CHOICE AND FLEXIBILITY.
MINNESOTA HAS BEEN
RECOGNIZED FOR PROMOTING CHOICE
FLEXIBILITIES. THESE ARE
HOME AND COMMUNITY BASED
SERVICES. SENIORS SHOULD BE
IBLE TO LIVE IN DEPENDENT LY
LY. WHATEVER LAWS THAT
ARE PASSED WE NEED TO ENSURE
THAT
THERE IS ADEQUATE
RECOURSES.
NEW REGULAR
LACES MUST -- CLEAR. PREVENTION SHOULD
BE A KEY FOCUS OF THE WORK. AN
INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE TO
USE THE DATA COLLECTED.
THIS SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE
EFFORTS AS WELL. TO BE
CLEAR THE LONG-TERM CARE
IMPERATIVE
-- SPECIFIC CRITERIA FOR
EVALUATION; DISCLOSURE;
SERVICE TERMINATION. WE
SUPPORT ELECTR
ONIC MONITORING. HOWEVER; WE
LOOK
FORWARD TO OUR CONTINUED
WORK FOR STAKEHOLDERS TO FIND
SOLUTIONS THAT CLOSE AND
REFLECT THE CONSENSUS THAT CAME OUT OF THE WORKING
GROUP. I'D LIKE TO THANK
REPRESENTATIVES FOR YOUR
LEADERSHIPS
ON THESE ISSUES.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>>
FIRST AS WE SAID WE SUPPORT
MOVING TO ASSISTED LIVING
LICENSURE. HOW WE MOVE TO
THAT MATTERS. A LOST
WORK WAS DONE AND IT WAS GOOD
WORKING FORWARD. WE ARE
HOPEFUL THERE WILL BE
RESOLUTION DURING THIS
SESSION. WE HAVE A
RESPONSIBILITY TO
IDENTIFY THE POSSIBLE AND UNINTENDED
CONSEQUENCES. CONSUMERS
EXPERIENCING NO ACCESS TO
THE
SERVICES THAT THEY WANT.
PROVISIONS THAT MAKE IT
IMPOSSIBLE TO MEET THE
SHORTAGE. THE LANGUAGE A
SUMS THAT ALL PROVIDERS ARE
ENROLLED TO ACCEPT ALL
PAYMENT
-- COVER THE NEED OF ALL
SERVICES. THE WAIVER
PROGRAM
IS SEVERELY UNDER FUNDED AND
UP TO ABOUT 25 PERCENT BELOW
THE COST. FURTHERMORE
CLIENTS HAVE BUDGET CAPS.
THAT MAY LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF
SERVICES THAT
THEY CAN COVER.
THERE SHOULD BE AN APPEALS
PROCESS AND SERVICE
TERMINATION PROCESS. FOR BOTH HOUSE AND GO SERVICES;
THE CURRENT ONE IS
UNWORKABLE. THERE IS NO
TIME
FRAME
FOR HEARING RESOLUTION.
AT SIFTED LIVING
ESTABLISHMENT BEARS THE
BURDEN OF PROOF. THIS COULD
DELAY THE RESOLUTION OF
SITUATIONS THAT ARE UNSAFE.
THERE IS ALSO CONCERN THAT
THIS NEW PROCESS IS IN
ADDITION -- THERE NEEDS TO
BE
ONE SINGLE
PROCESS FOR RECONSIDERATION. THAT
PREVAIL BUT THEN TURN
SXARND FIND ANOTHER -- WE AGREED IN
CONCEPT WITH SOME FORM OF
APPEAL. THE LANGUAGE HAS
TOO
MANY PROBLEMS IN ITS CURRENT
FORM. PROVIDERS ARE NOT
OPPOSE TODAY GREATER
PROTECTIONS. BUT THE
LANGUAGE APPEARS TO BE
OVERLY BROAD. IT WOULD APPLY TO
ANY
MISLEADING STATEMENTS OR --
BY ANY EMPLOYEE. WRITTEN
CONTRACTS ARE UTILIZED. I
THINK IT SHOULD BE MODIFIED
TO BE WRITTEN RATHER THAN
VERBAL. WITH EXPECT TO
RETALIATION -- PERSON WITH A
PERSONAL; LEGAL OR
PROFESSIONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH THE RESIDENT.
AN INCREASE IN NECESSARY
SERVICES IF THE
RESIDENTS CONDITION CHANGED. IT WOULD
EVEN PREVENT THE TERMINATIO
N OR DISCIPLINE OF AN EMPLOYEE
-- AND THFR HAS 90 DAYS
BEFORE THEY CAN
BE ACTED UPON.
SEVERAL OF THE ACTIONS
CONSIDERED; COULD PUT
SENIORS
AT GREATER RISK FOR
MALTREATMENT. ANOTHER
PROBLEM COMPONENT IS THAT WE
WOULD BE INVITING MORE
LAWSUITS WHEN THERE ISN'T
ANY
QUANTIFIABLE
DAMAGES. CURRENTLY PLAYOFF--
CURRENT LAW ALLOWS YOU TO SUE FOR
CERTAIN ACTIONS EVEN THOUGH
THERE WERE NO
QUANTIFIABLE DAMAGES AND RECOVER UP TO
$3;000; WHICHEVER IS MORE.
MUCH OF THE
ELECTRONIC MONITORING THAT TOOK PLACE
OVER THE SUMMER AND FALL IS
DOWN TO ONE AREA
THAT WE NOTICED. PREVENT ANY
MALTREATMENT FROM OCCURRING.
FINALLY; OVERALL THE BILL
APPEARS TO APPLY
ASSISTED LIVING TO ALL OF THE OVER
SITE LANGUAGE RELATING TO
CONTROLLING PERSONS;
LICENSURES; ASSISTED REVERBING BUILDINGS MAY BE
OWNED WITH ENTITIES NOT
AFFILIATED WITH THE
SERVICES. OR HAVE DIFFERENT FINANCING
MODELS.
WE SUPPORT LICENSURE BUT DON'T WANT TO CREATE NEW
NURSING HOMES OR MAKING ALL
ASSISTED LIVING
LIKE NURSING HOMES.
REPLEDGE OUR SUPPORT TO WORK
TOWARDS THE CONSENSUS
OF THIS
PROCESS.
THAT THERE WILL BE FINAL
LEGISLATION PUT INTO LAW
THIS
YEAR. THIS WORK IS TOO
IMPORTANT. AND EVEN ONE
CASE OF ABUSE IS TOO MANY AND WE
MUST DO BETTER. WE
APOLOGIZE FOR ALL OF THE BAD
ACTORS OUT THERE. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
>> OUR ORGANIZATION IS A
STATEWIDE NO ONE PROFIT
WORKING TO ALLEVIATE THE
EXPLOITATION OF OLDER
ADULTS.
FOR OLDER ADULTS
WITH COGNITIVE ISSUES AND
IMPAIRMENTS THAT RISK
INCREASES TO ONE IN FIVE.
WE
PROVIDE FREE CONFIDENTIAL
SUPPORT. WE PROVIDE SP
ECIAL TRAIN AND GO
EDUCATION WORKING WITH OR BE HALF OF
OLDER ADULTS. WE
WORK TO CHANGE SYSTEMS TO
IMPACT OLDER VICTIMS.
AS YOU HEARD EARLIER; OUR
ORGANIZATION ONE ONE OF FIVE
CONSUMER GROUPS -- FOR
CHANGES TO OUR LONG-TERM
SYSTEMS BACK IN 2017.
WE SUPPORT THE CHANGES THAT
YOU HEARD THE OTHER CONSUMER
GROPES DISCUSS EAR LAYER
TODAY. BRIEFLY ONE
ADDITIONAL AREA TO HIGHLIGHT
INVOLVES AN ISSUE THAT WAS
NOT DISCUSSED AS MUCH AMONG
THE WORKING GROUPS.
IT WAS AT THE CORE OF WHAT THE
FAMILIES WERE TALKING ABOUT
TODAY. PERHAPS NO ISSUE
HAS A DIRECT -- OF THE HEALTH;
SAFETY AND QUALITY. STRONG
CORRELATIONS BETWEEN STAFF
FACILITIES WITH HIGH MARKS
FOR SAFETY AND QUALITY.
SOME
STATES REGULATE WITH
PRESCRIBED RATIOS. WE
BELIEVE A BETTER ROUTE IS TO
MANDATE FACILITIES HAVE A
WORKING PLAN THAT WOULD
JUSTIFY THEIR STAFFING
LEVELS. WE LOOK FORWARD TO
WORKING ON THIS AND MANY
OF THE GREAT PROTECTIONS ISSUES
IN THIS BILL. AND THANKS --
AND WE ARE PLEASED TO WORK
WITH ALL STAKEHOLDERS.
THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
DO WE HAVE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE
WHO WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY?
LET'S OPEN IT UP
TO MEMBERS.
QUESTIONS?
>> THANK YOU. I'M GLAD TO
SEE A COMPREHENSIVE BILL
BROUGHT FORWARD. IT
IS BEEN OVERDUE. THIS SUMMER I TOOK
TIME TO PARTICIPATE IN A
WORK
GROUP OF ASSISTED LIVING
LICENSING. AND I APPRECIATE
THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT I HAD TO LEARN FROM ALL OF
THE PEOPLE BOTH FROM THE
INDUSTRY AND FROM THE ADVOCACY
COMMUNITY ON IT. AND TO
BRING STORIES FROM MY OWN
CONSTITUENTENTS THERE IS ONE
AREA THAT I FELT WE STILL
NEED TO DO A LITTLE WORK.
ON
PAGE 8; UNDER ASSISTED
LIVING HOME CARE BILL OF RIGHTS.
WE
HAVE TREATMENT DEFINED.
WHAT THE RESPONSES ARE. WHO YOU
CAN APPEAL TO. SOME OF THE
STORIES THAT WE HEARD TODAY
AND STORIES THAT I HAVE
HEARD
ARE CASES OF NEGLECT AND
FAILURE TO PERFORM
OBLIGATIONS FOR THE
RESIDENTS
OF THOSE FACILITIES. WHEN
YOU DON'T CHECK ON
SOMEONE. WHEN YOU DON'T TAKE THEM
DOWN
TO THEIR MEAL. THAT CAN BE
CALLED MALTREATMENT. A
PERSISTENT CODE OF CONTACT.
I HAVE HEARD FROM
CONSTITUENTENTS WHO HAVE HAD
A LOVED ONE IN ASSISTED
LIVING. HER HUSBAND WAS
SUPPOSED TO GET SHOWERS AT
LEAST TWICE A WEEK. SHE
WOULD COMPLAIN. THEY WOULD
GO BACK TO GIVING HIM
THE SHOWERS BUT ONE OF THE
NEIGHBORS DOWN THE HALL
WASN'T GETTING IT. SO IT
WAS
A ROTATION OF NEGLECT.
MISSING A SHOWER MAY NOT
RISE AS MALTREATMENT BUT IT IS
NOT
FULFILLING
YOUR COMMITMENT. PUTTING SOMEONE IN
THE CORNER
AND -- MANY THOUSANDS OF
DOLLARS A MONTH TO ME IS AN
ISSUE THAT IS EASIER TO
DEFINE AS NEGLECT. SO AS
THIS CONTINUES TO MOVE
FORWARD AND WE LOOK AT HOW
TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE
ADDRESSING THE CIRCUMSTANCES; I HOPE THAT WE LOOK AT THAT
AS ANOTHER AVENUE.
SO MANY OF THE STORIES THAT I HAVE
HEARD REALLY FALL TO THAT
LEVEL. BUT MIGHT HAVE A
HARDER TIME IN A COURT OF
LAW OR OTHER SITUATION TO BE
DEFINED AS PERSISTENT COURSE
OF CONDUCT. I THINK THE
DEFENSE IS ALWAYS THAT WE
NEVER INTEND TODAY DISTRESS
THEM. IF YOU'RE SHORT OF
STAS THEN YOU HAVE TO STOP
ADMISSIONS. THAT DOESN'T
SEEM TO BE AN OPTION THAT IS
TAKEN VERY OFTEN. I
REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK OF EVERY
ONE WHO HAS
CONTRIBUTED TO THAT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR
LEADERSHIP ON THIS.
>> THANK YOU. BEFORE -- I
HAD SOMEONE IN MY DISTRICT
WOULD WAS CONCERNED ABOUT
ELDER ABUSE AND ELDER CARE.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY
ASKED ME; IS THE DIFFERENCE
BETWEEN ASSISTANT LIVING AND
NURSING HOMES. WHY IS THE
FOCUS ON ASSISTED LIVING?
>> WE ALREADY
REGULATE NURSING HOMES. BUT WE HAVE
FAILED TO LICENSE AND
REGULATE ASSISTED LIVING
FACILITIES. MORE AND MORE
THEY'RE BECOMING MORE
POPULAR. AND
WE'RE SEEING MORE NEGLECT AND ISSUES
THERE. I THANK YOU
FOR SENDING THOSE -- WAS ABLE
TO GET (INAUDIBLE) AND IT WAS
IMPRESSIVE THE WORK THAT WAS
BEING DONE. ACCORDING TO --
EXPERT ATTORNEY IN LINE
8.28 INCLUDES NEGLECT.
>> IN THE INTEREST OF CLEAR
STATUTES WE SHOULD PROBABLY
LOOK AT IF WE PUT
MALTREAT
MENT DEFINED AS -- OR; I GUESS IT IS OR BECAUSE
AS WE WRITE THIS UP IN
COMMON
LANGUAGE FOR THE FAMILIES IT
IS TYPICAL THAT WE WOULD
IGNORE ALL OF NOSE NUMBERS
AND SUMMARIZE THE WORDS ON
THE PAGE. I'M GLAD TO KNOW
THAT WE'RE LOOKING
OUT FOR THAT.
>> DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS FROM MEMBERS?
>> THANK YOU. I JUST WANT
TO SAY THANK YOU FOR
CARRYING
THIS BILL. I CAN'T TELL YOU
HOW MUCH THIS WAS AN ISSUE
IN
MY COMMUNITY. ALSO MY
FATHER IN LAW HAD ALZHEIMER'S. I
THINK IT IS A HUGE ISSUE.
I'M SURPRISED THAT WE -- I
WOULD ALSO SAY THAT I KNOW
THAT NURSING HOMES DO
THESE. I THINK THEY'RE VERY
IMPERFECT. AS WE DO THAT WE
HAVE TO LOOK AT WAYS WHERE
WE
CAN HAVE RANDOMATION --
WE'RE NOT GETTING A REAL
PICTURE OF
THOSE. THANK YOU.
>> ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS FOR MEMBERS?
>> THANK YOU. I HAVE A FEW
QUESTIONS FOR THE AUTHORS OF
THE BILL AND A
COUPLE AMENDMENTS THAT WE'LL
BE TAKING UP. TO THE AUTHORS
OF
THE BILL; ON
PAGE TEN; THIS IS
ABOUT A COUPLE
DEFINITIONS OVERARCHING IN THE BILL.
ONE
TALKS ABOUT A DESIGNATED
REPRESENTATIVE. AND THE
OTHER ONE TALKS ABOUT A
RESIDENT
REPRESENTATIVE. SO MY QUESTION IS ARE THEY THE
SAME. IF THEY ARE; WHY
AREN'T WE JUST USING ONE?
>> THANK YOU. IT IS
PURPOSEFUL THAT THERE ARE
TWO DIFFERENT USES. WHAT YOU'LL
NOTICE IS THAT
DESIGNATED (INAUDIBLE) IS USED IN EVERY
PLACE EXCEPT FOR THE
ELECTRONIC MONITORING.
INCLUDING POWER OF
ATTORNEY AND CONSERVATORS. IN TERMS
OF PLACING A CAMERA; THE
TERM IS USED -- WHICH IS
CONSISTENT WITH THE
ELECTRONIC MONITORING GROU
PS. USE OF THAT TERM. SO
THAT'S
A PURPOSEFUL DIS--
>> IT IS NOT JUST
ABOUT THE FINANCIAL QUESTION. IT
IS ABOUT THE SAFETY OF THE
INDIVIDUAL. AND TO SUGGEST
THAT A POWER OF ATTORNEY
IS ONLY REGULATED TO ISSUES OF
FINANCE AND A
RESIDENT REPRESENTATIVE IS ONLY
RELEVANT GATE TODAY
ELECTRONIC
MONITORING WE'RE GIVING SHORT TRIPS TO A
FAMILY MEMBER WHO MIGHT BE
-- TO SOMEONE WHO HAS A VERY
STRONG DESIRE TO PROVIDE FOR
THE SAFETY AND WELL BEING OF
THAT RESIDENT. SO TO
SUGGEST
THAT THERE SHOULD BE A
DIFFERENCE; I
DON'T FIND ONE.
>> CLEARLY WE SHARE THE
SAME
-- I THINK THAT MAYBE THERE
IS A -- AND THE RESIDENT
REPRESENTATIVE AREA FOR
CAMERAS AND MONITORING THE
HEALTH CARRIAGE GENT-- CARE.
>> TO THE AUTHORS; ON PAGE
24; THIS IS A VERY EXTENSIVE
DELINEATION AND SCOPE. THE
ONE THING THAT I CAN'T FIND
IS A TIME FRAME FOR
RESOLUTION. CAN YOU
OR TICK LATE ARTICULATE WHERE IT IS?
I DON'T FIND A
POSITION WHE
RE WE DELINEATE.
>> THAT -- THERE IS NOT A
TIME. IT IS BECAUSE WE
THOUGHT THAT WAS -- EX --
AND
IT WAS THOUGHT TO ALLOW THE
-- OFFICE OF
ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING TO DETERMINE IT IS
OWN TIME FRAME.
>> TO THE TESTIFIER; I
THINK WITHOUT -- THE THOUGHT
BEING;
I THINK WE USED THOSE WITH
REGARDS TO THE FOLKS THAT WE
ARE -- THERE WE SHOULD
CLARIFY. THAT THOUGHT. IN
THE LANGUAGE ITSELF.
>> I JUST HAVE ONE FINAL
QUESTION FOR THE AUTHORS.
THIS HAS TO DO WITH PAGE 29.
THE PRIVATE ENFORCEMENT OF
WRAITHS. I'M CURIOUS AS YOU
PUT THIS BILL TOGETHER; WHY
YOU ARRIVED AT DAMAGES AT
OUR
ESTABLISHED RECOVERABLE;
$3;000 OR GREATER. WHAT PROM
PT PROMPTED THAT?
>> THERE ARE STAT FOR RIO
OVERRULED PUT IN PLACE.
THEY
RANGE FROM ONE THOUSAND;
2;000; UP TO TEN THOUSAND.
THE MIDDLE GROUND IS ROUND
3;000. SO A NUMBER OF
DAMAGE
IS PLACED TO CREATE A FLOOR
THAT IS NOT TOO HIGH; NOT
TOO LOW BUT SUFFICIENT ENOUGH TO
DETER THE
BEHAVIOR. THANK YOU. IT PROBABLY ATTRACTS
LAWSUITS. GIVEN THE FACT
THAT IF YOU NEW THAT; AN
ATTORNEY MIGHT SAY; I THINK
AT LEAST $3;000 BUT I'M SURE
THAT I CAN GET
MORE FOR YOU. THE FOLLOW UP ON THAT;
YOU'RE
GOING TO INCREASE THE COST
OF CARE -- CARING FOR PEOPLE;
ONE BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO
HAVE TO TAKE OUT HIGHER
LEVELS OF LIABILITY
INSURANCE. AND THEN
WHATEVER THE -- ADD ON TOP OF THAT TO
MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE
COVERING THEIR RISK FOR
ENSURING THAT COMMUNITY OF
RESIDENTS. SO MY CONCERN IS
THAT ALONE REALLY HAS A VERY
--
CHILLING AFFECT. ON TAKING GOOD CARE OF THE
PEOPLE THAT ARE ENTRUSTED TO
THE CARE OF THESE
RESPIRATORY
-- I FOR ONE DO AS WELL BUT
AS I SAID IN COMMITTEE
BEFORE; THIS IS WHERE WE GET
-- ABOUT THE DETAILS BECAUSE
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE
GET IT RIGHT THE
FIRST TIME. WE DON'T WANT TO COME BACK
AND AMEND IT. LOOKING TO US
FOR GUIDANCE. THANK YOU.
>> JUST A COUPLE OF
THINGS.
FIRST OF ALL THAT TERM
FRIVOLOUS LAWSUIT IS GOING
AROUND A LOT.
FIRST OF ALL; UNDER RULE 11
IS THAT SERIOUS SANCTION --
ALMOST EVERY ATTORNEY IN
MINNESOTA WILL BE CAREFUL
ABOUT FILING WHAT WOULD BE
TERMED AS A FRIVOLOUS
LAWSUIT. AN ATTORNEY TAKING
A CASE WITH NO ABILITY TO
KNOW; THEY BETTER HAVE A
GOOD CASE TO BEGIN WITH. LAST
YEAR THE BILL HAD A PRIVATE
RIGHT; AND IF OVERRULED THIS
YEAR THERE WERE ONLY A
HANDFUL OF RIGHTS. THESE
ARE
THE MOST SERIOUS RIGHTS.
VERY LIMITED PRIVATE RIGHT.
THE MAGNITUDE STORIES THAT
WE HEARD. THERE IS NO
RECOURSE.
THOSE RIGHTS ARE JUST A LOT
OF NICE WORDS ON A PIECE OF
PAPER. PUBLICENCE FORCEMENT
NOT ONLY WILL EVER BE STRONG
ENOUGH BUT IT GOES TO THE
FACILITY. IT DOESN'T
COMPENSATE THE VICTIM. AND
DOESN'T GIVE THEM JUSTICE.
SO I WOULD SAY THIS
IS A BALANCING.
>> NO ONE WILL DISPUTE THE
DISHONOR THAT HAS BEEN
BROUGHT UPON. WITHOUT
HESITATION WE AGREE ON
THAT. WE CAN AGREE THAT WE ALSO
LIVE IN A -- SOCIETY. THAT
BEING SAID. IF I'M A
BUSINESS OWNER I'M WELL
MEANING BUT IF A PIECE OF
LITIGATION IS BEING BROUGHT
UPON ME WITH THE THREAT OF
DEPENDING MY SELF. THE
RESULT AND ACTION THAT A
BUSINESS OWNER MIGHT TAKE IS
TO SAY LET'S JUST SETTLE AND
MOVE ON. I THINK THAT IS
CONCERNING TO ME. I ALSO
KNOW THERE IS THE DARK SIDE
TO PLACING AN OPPORTUNITY.
TO CLAIM SOMETHING THAT
ISN'T THERE. IF WE ARE IN
AGREEMENT WITH SOME CAVEATS.
THANK YOU.
WE ARE HAPPY TO WORK WITH
YOU
ON THAT LANGUAGE. IF YOU
RECOMMEND A DIFFERENT NUMBER
THERE WE'RE OPEN TO THAT. I
THINK THE ADVOCATES HAVE
COMPROMISED QUITE A BIT.
WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK ON
THIS LEGISLATION IN A --
>> I BELIEVE THE A1;
A2 AMENDMENT.
>> SO WE WOULD LIKE TO
AMEND
HOUSE FILE 90 THAT IS NOW
AMENDED. AMEND WITH THE A
2.
>> THANK YOU. WOULD YOU
LIKE TO SPEAK
TO THE AMENDMENT?
>> DID SOMEONE MOVE
THE A 2?
TWO?
>> NO.
>> CAN I MOVE THE A 2.
TWO.
>> ANY
COMMENTS? ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR OF THE A TWO?
ANY OPPOSED
THE MOTION PREVAILS. ANY FURTHER
DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT?
>> I'D LIKE TO MOVE THE
A THREE AMENDMENT.
>> OKAY.
>> SO WE HAVE
REPRESENTATIVE PEAR SON MOVING THE
A THREE AMENDMENT.
>> ANY DISCUSSION?
>> I CAN SPEAK TO THE A
THREE. WE'RE A LITTLE OVER
OUR SCHEDULE RIGHT NOW. I
KNOW THE BILL AUTHOR WAS
GOING FOR A COMPREHENSIVE
BILL HERE. THE ONE THING
THAT SOME OF THE
RECOMMENDATIONS
OF THE OFFICE OF AUDITOR
WERE NOT INCLUDED.
WE'RE ASKING
THEM TO BE APP COUNTABLE TO THE LEGISLATURE
AS WELL. THIS IS A STEP
THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED IN THE
PAST.
AND AGAIN; WITH REVIEW OF THE OFFICE OF LEGISLATURE
AUDITOR THESE ARE A LOT
OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS. I
ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A
LINE ITEM WITH IN THE
GOVERNORS BUDGET. I DON'T
THINK THERE SHOULD BE MUCH
OBJECTION FOLLOWING THOSE
RECOMMENDATIONS.
>> SO WE DO HAVE
SOME QUESTIONS ON SOME OF THE
LANGUAGE. BUT I ENCOURAGE
MEMBER TO SEE ADOPT THE A 3.
THREE.
>> THANK YOU. I SEE THAT
-- IS THERE I THINK MAYBE HE
HAS A COMMENT TO MAKE ON THIS.
I ALSO HAD A
QUESTION ABOUT IT.
I WAS WONDERING IF THE
AMENDMENT HAD THE COST.
I THOUGHT CERTAIN LEO
OVERRULED SOME
TIMES THAT'S AN LOUED TO BE DISCUSSED.
IT IS MY UNDERSTAND THAWING IT
IS A PRETTY
MINOR ADMINISTRATIVE COST.
>> I'LL BE QUICK. I JUST
WANT TO DRAW -- THIS
LANGUAGE WAS CONSIDERED LAST YEAR.
WE
MIGHT HAVE SOME TECHNICAL
FEEDBACK. I DON'T KNOW
THAT -- WAS GOING IN THIS
DIRECTION. PAGE 14; LINE
15. THIS REALLY IS A CIVIL
LAW ISSUE. I THINK IT IS
IMPORTANT TO RACE -- RAISE
BECAUSE THIS
IS POLICY COMMITTEE.
A PERSON WHO IS A SUBJECT
MEANING THE
PERPETRATOR WILL BE ALLOWED TO ACCESS THAT
DATA. POTENTIALLY DISRUPTING -- THAT IS KIND OF A BIG
DEAL
AND I JUST
WANTED (INAUDIBLE)
COMMITTEE TO IT.
>> I THINK THERE IS
ANOTHER PERSON WHO WOULD LIKE TO
COMMENT ON THE AMENDMENT.
>> WE WANT TO --
REPRESENTATIVE -- AND AGREE
THAT IN
THIS AMENDMENT; THERE
IS A LOT THAT HAS BEEN
DISCUSSED OR THAT WE
HAVE ISSUE WITH. THERE ARE
DETAILS THAT WE WOULD LIKE
TO
-- TO MAKE SURE THAT IT DOES
ALIGN WITH
(INAUDIBLE) UNDER WAY.
>> THANK YOU FOR
YOUR TESTIMONY. SO I THINK WHAT
I'M HEARING; ALTHOUGH THERE
ARE SOME
TECHNICAL REVISIONS THAT NEED TO BE MADE.
REPRESENTATIVE IS WILLIN
G TO ACCEPT THE A THIS
WILLING TO ACCEPT THE A THREE AMENDMENT. >> CORRECT. >> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
>> JUST TO CLARIFY; IF WE
ACCEPT THE A THREE AMENDMENT
I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS THAT
THE GENTLEMAN BROUGHT UP
ABOUT THAT B SECTION.
WOULD THOSE BE CORRECTED IN
ANOTHER
STOP OR ARE WE ALLOWING
THOSE
IN? I HAVE? CONCERNS ABOUT
THAT. IF WE ACCEPT THIS
AMENDMENT THAT WE WILL LOOK
AT REVISIONS TO THAT B
SECTION AND NOT PASSIN
G THAT THROUGH.
>> I THINK THE REFERRAL WAS
-- VI INDICATE -- OUR INTENT
IS TO WORK WITH THE AGENCY
STAFF. AND MAKE SURE THAT
LANGUAGE IS ACCESSIBLE.
WE CAN DO THAT AT
THE NEXT (INAUDIBLE).
>> ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS?
OKAY. SO HERING NONE. ALL
IN FAVOR OF ADOPTING THE A
THREE AMENDMENT? MOTION
PREVAILS. AND IT IS NOW
ADOPTED. NO FURTHER
DISCUSSION.
HOUSE FILE 90 AMENDMENTED -- ALL IN
FAVOR?
THE MOTION PREVAILS HOUSES
FILE AS AMENDED BE
RECOMMENDED. YOUR BILL IS
ON
ITS WAY. THANK YOU ALL SO
MUCH. WE ARE ADJOURNED.
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